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TSB 08-01-00 Rev A

No Start (Engine Will Not Crank) Due To A Blown Starter Relay Circuit Fuse

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Date: June 30, 2000

THIS BULLETIN SUPERSEDES TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN 08-01-00, DATED JAN. 21, 2000, WHICH SHOULD BE REMOVED FROM YOUR FILES.

models: 2000 - 2001 (BR/BE)   Ram Truck

2000 (AB) Ram Van/Wagon
2000 - 2001 (BR/BE) Ram Truck

NOTE- THIS BULLETIN APPLIES TO RAM TRUCKS AND RAM VANS/WAGONS BUILT BEFORE THE FOLLOWING DATES:

RAM VANS/WAGONS

RAM TRUCKS

Discussion:

This bulletin involves installing a starter solenoid jumper relay/harness assembly and a new fuse.

Symptoms:
Vehicle will not start (engine will not crank) due to blown starter relay circuit fuse.

Diagnosis:
Inspect for a blown starter relay circuit fuse. The starter relay fuse is located in the fuse block on Ram Van/Wagons and is fuse number 17. On Ram Trucks, the starter relay fuse is located in the Power Distribution Center (PDC) and is fuse "D". If the fuse is blown, inspect the starter relay circuit for any electrical shorts to ground. Refer to the appropriate Service Manual, Group 8W-21 "Starting Systems Wiring Diagrams" for circuit identification, components, and their locations. If there are no apparent electrical shorts to ground in the starter relay circuit, perform the repair procedure.

Parts:
1 04687835 Fuse, 25-Arnp
AR (1) 05019014AA Relay/Harness Assernbly, Starter Solenoid Jurnper, Ram Van/Wagon
AR (1) 05019015AA Relay/Harness Assernbly, Starter Solenoid Jurnper, Rarn Truck

Repair Procedure:
This Repair is compatible with DaimlerChrysler's Mobile service program and
does not require hoists or other full service facility special equipment.

Instructions:     RAM TRUCK        RAM VAN/WAGON

Revised wiring harness - Service manual revision (caution - large files):

Notes:

Policy:    Reimbursable within the provisions of the warranty.

Time Allowance:
Labor Operation No:       08-90-65-97 . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 0.4 Hrs.

Failure Code:  P8 - New Part

From Bob B:.
 I was sent to replace all those my dealer had on the lot today rather than wait for the customer to have to be towed in on a no-start. It bothers me that the wire gauge is still the same and yet is fused higher. I guess the current draw of a starter will not fry the wire in the short use to crank. Stay tuned, I don't think this is over yet. Locate the fuse for "starter sol" in the box, the row is a blank and then 2- 15's then the starter 20. Follow the diagram in the underside of the cover. There is a puller in the box, as the fuse is a mini and SMALL to grab. Pinch the clips on the cover like you might pinch your wife's (or other) knee at the movies and the front one will come loose easier. Tip the cover (not the knee) to the rear and it comes off. Do your work and its over. Leave the 20 in the box somewhere as you may need it sometime.

From Dave F:
My wife's new 2001 Ram already had been modified at the factory. When I pulled the cover off of the PDC, I found no fuse for the start circuit and there was no wire to the fuse socket. On the PDC cover, magic marker had been used to black out the fuse location in the diagram and a new 30 amp fusible link had been marked in a different location. There was no explanation of the new fuse link's function but I have verified that it is the starting circuit. On this truck, the 18 gauge wire was upgraded with a wiring harness patch, and a larger fuse link was installed. Chrysler must have made a quick wiring change on the assembly line and all 2001 vehicles built after February 1, 2000 will probably have the same circuit.

Thanks to Bob Bergevin for supplying this TSB information

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